In light of all that is going on within the news lately Re: Bristol Palin, it would seem that she is the only child of Sarah Palin. What is being lost in the media and blogosphere is the courageous story of Track Palin – 19 y/o son of Sarah who is heading to the middle east – Iraq in a few days.
What is being portrayed is that Sarah must have failed in her parenting role because her 17 y/o daughter is five months pregnant. As a parent myself and having talked and counseled with countless number of parents who have had teens who have either gotten pregnant, arrested, or become totally rebellious, I know that we can do but so much. There is no guarantee.
There is no guarantee that your child will turn out the way you would like. You pray that they will.
I wonder how much of a failure is she when she has a 19 y/o who has chosen to serve his country so courageously and unselfishly. I wonder if there is anyone who would publicly go on record to accuse Sarah Palin of failing as a parent because her son has chosen to go to the military. Would those out there who are trying to do everything in their power to smear Sarah Palin attack her son for making this decision with obvious parental support? Why is Track’s decision not getting equal air-play?
Track’s decision shows that children from the same family raised by the same parents and in similar environment may make different decisions. I applaud Track’s decision especially in a day when teens are more about themselves than for others. I do know there have been countless number of teens who are serving in the military and they too need to be applauded. These guys should be our heroes.
I hope the media can at least attempt to be balanced. Sorry Track. This is what media reporting have become. Thanks for choosing to serve your country especially while we are at war. May God bless and keep you.
"who are you & what do you want" ... good read"
“These Guys should be our heros”
Give it a rest! My Dad served in Vietnam and Iraq War One, my brother and his wife in Bosnia, my cousin in Afganistan. Listen, I love them all but it was their job they signed up to do and they wouldn’t consider themselves heros for it so neither do I. Who’s going on record saying Sarah Pallin failed as a parent because her daughter is pregnant? I think you’re confused with the way Evangelicals love to smear each other over these types of things. What is being said is that her stance as a politician trying to force “abstinence only” sex education is especially deplorable now that her own daughter is a victim of this type of ignorance. And you want someone to go on record saying she’s failed as a parent for raising a 19 year old who’s being deployed to Iraq? Considering the fact that in REALITY where most of us live, unlike the Palin’s, we’ve come to realize this war is at best a sham and most likely illegal. A pretty far cry from the “Jesus Mission” Mrs. Palin is on the web in video files speaking about at her looney bin church where they pray for oil pipelines in God’s name, as if he doesn’t have real issues, you know like blown up Iraqi children missing limbs? I have a friend who died in Iraq in the Marines and I wish I could believe he was a hero and it was for my freedom but once upon a time I grew up and grew a pair to speak out on behalf of my family and country to say we’re not going to let your “heros” mentality bully and silence our saying we don’t buy your lies. Sarah Palin should’ve done everything in her power to convince her son this sham of a war in Iraq was not worth his risking his own life over some kind of over- romantiscized idea of soldiering that the young and gullible fall for, ignorantly serving in order to turn a profit for Dick Cheney’s bomb company and the Arab Oil Barrons. Most people join the army for money (surprise!) and he did it because I bet his mama has been whispering b.s. in his ear his whole life SO YES SHE FAILED HIM!!!!
Post this one if your not a coward,
&/or you respect freedom of speech.
Chris Woltman
American in London, UK
Wow. I’m sure there are other ways to make money. Putting ones life on the line literally is not my idea of money making. I applaud your family members who served unselfishly in the military. They too are my heroes.
Isn’t it ironic that our heroes — yes heroes — are sacrificing their lives, so that people like Chris can have the freedom to spew hate-filled rhetoric and then dares to not acknowledge the merit of their sacrifice. That’s pretty pathetic.
I too have family and friends who have served in the military. And none of them served for the money or benefits as you suggest. There are a few decent people left on the planet who believe in causes bigger than themselves.
Furthermore, the reason most don’t consider themselves heroes is not because they saw it as “their job,” but because of their humility and sense of duty to country. It’s the same decency and honor that led them to serve in that capacity, that leads them to not see themselves as heroes.
How arrogant and snooty of you to declare that “neither do you” (consider them heroes). You weren’t the one out there fending for your country and risking your life. How dare you dennigrate the sacrifice of these brave men and women … regardless of your opinion of the war … they believe in their country and a cause and are willing to sacrifice even for those who are ignorant of the truth and reality of the evil they are fighting against. The least you can do is honor their service. But I guess that’s too much to ask.
There is no guarantee that your child will turn out the way you would like. You pray that they will.
I’m sorry Tom,
US kids are killing and be killed NOT for our freedom,
but for Israel;
for the companies who got the army logistics’ contracts;
and for the oil companies that couldn’t exploit Iraq and now have the exclusivity of its oil fields.
Also, until the war crime against Iraq, Iraqi Christians – which are direct descendants of people converted by the Apostles (contrarily to American selfproclaimed “Evangelicals”) – lived in peace an tranquility.
It was the Anglo-American invasion that, after 2000 years, brought them misery and exile!
Yes!
The “selfproclaimed Christian Americans” did more for the destruction of Iraqi Christianity in just 6 years than 1400 years of Islamic ruling!
Wake up Americans!
I’m terrified by the support that Palin is getting, and love seeing people like Chris and Portugal speak up.
What is so horrifically sad about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy is that at age 17 she is not only going to have to enter the difficult world of motherhood, but it seems that it is her ONLY option because of her mother’s political stand against abortion and the fact that her mother us under a microscope right now. I have little doubt in my mind that this child was given no other alternative but to have the baby and get married. The absence of choice in a young girl’s life with a decision this massive is heartbreaking. And the fact that her mother says that she fully supports her 17 year old child’s decision to have the baby and get married should show just how ignorant the woman is. I don’t see how being pro-teen pregnancy is a positive political stand to take.
Chris is right on the money…. no one is saying Palin is a failed mother because her child got knocked up. What Palin’s situation does say is that the “abstinence only” teachings DON’T WORK, and that ladies need to have options if they do find themselves in this situation. Palin’s daughter is a shining example of how the evangelical teachings don’t pan out in modern society, and despite what the ancient teaching of the bible say- we need a little common sense and a reality check with this issue. Kids NEED to be taught about safe sex. And being pro-choice doesn’t mean that anyone thinks abortion is a fun time… it just means that women of all ages shouldn’t ever be forced to care for a child they aren’t ready for. I don’t see how any of this is difficult to understand.
But what is the most interesting thing about this is that if it was the daughter of a democrat who got knocked up, I’m sure the republicans wouldn’t be as respectful of the candidate’s family as Obama is being. They would tear the democrats (and that girl’s ethics) to pieces every chance they’d get.
And to kingsleygrant…. yes, there are tons of other ways to make money other than joining the military. But the majority of the kids who have joined the military (especially in the past few years) have done so because of the financial aid promised by the military. They promise to pay off debts, pay for college once the soldier’s term is served, and well as countless other perks. And with our economy being a disaster, jobs that can actually pay the bills being scarce, college standards of acceptance getting higher as well as the cost of tuition, but because of budget cuts AND the ability to qualify for financial assistance being nearly impossible making scholarships and student loans are harder and harder to obtain, and the fact that the average American is in so much financial debt already because of the non-existence of a living wage so the thought of being able to afford an education is a long lost dream. With these realities staring a young person in the face, a few years in the army doesn’t seem that bad when promises of relief are dangled in that young person’s face. But sacrificing your safety or your life for a war that is only aiding the politicians dictating it, and a war that is doing far more harm than good, and a war that was built on lies that is destroying the country that it is claiming to protect isn’t heroic. It’s tragic. And I feel so bad for the soldiers who are there because it’s their only financial option, or because they were raised in such an ignorant and sheltered environment that they blindly follow whatever our corrupt government says is “right”.
Kristen I just underscore the argument against pro-abortion cleverly disguised as pro-choice. You said that pro-choice means “that women of all ages shouldn’t ever be forced to care for a child they aren’t ready for. I don’t see how any of this is difficult to understand.”
Two points you made that jumps out at me:
1. That abortion is the taking of a life – a child … this you seem to agree with
2. Some abortions are for mere convenience – “aren’t ready for”
My thought is that if you are not ready for a child then you are not ready to have sex. You make the choice to have sex and thats where your choice stops. The result of the sex – pregnancy, should also have a choice to live.
Using your words, “I don’t see how any of this is difficult to understand.”
Unlike some of the other comments here, I applaud Palin for supporting Bristol. She could sit back and tell her daughter that it’s up to her what she wants to do but then that contradicts her belief. This election year is a monumental one in that people are really voicing their opinion. If you feel so strongly against someone then don’t vote for them there are many options.Do not criticize them for thier belief and what they stand for. The media is who brought everyone this story on Bristol being pregnant, not Palin herself. Since it is out int the open then she is making the best decisions in reguards to HER family not yours.
In Tracks decision to join the military, leave him alone. He wanted to be a part of history and if that means sacraficing yourself for others, reguardless of for whom, he is doing what he wants.
I agree that there needs to be more focus on Track’s decision and the decision of all the men and women who join the military rather than focus on a 17 year old who just happened to get pregnant. Big Woop. It happens to the best of us.
I also think that to suggest that Bristol’s mom has given her the only option of having the child, is better than killing the child. But there is another option that could be given that would not destroy a child’s life and that is adoption. So many people today thank God that someone used the latter option so that they can experience life with children. Thank God for parents who would strongly urge their daughters to consider the only options of keeping the baby or putting it up for adoption. One more life spared.
kingsleygrant… The argument of whether or not a fetus is in fact a child stems from religious debate. Not everyone believes an embryo or a fetus is in fact a child. But we’re all well schooled on the different thoughts pertaining to that- so there’s no need to bore anyone.
As for abortion being utilized because convenience… dear god, that’s ignorant. The majority of my friends that have children got pregnant even though they used protection. I have a son (conceived while I was on birth control pills), and have been pregnant 2 other times but miscarried both- AND BOTH conceptions occurred while I was on the pill or using condoms. All happened while I was a grown woman, and all times I was trying to avoid pregnancies. And if I hadn’t miscarried those 2 pregnancies- I would have aborted. Why? Because even though I was careful, I still got pregnant… and I was in no place in my life to be able to care for a child. But when I did get pregnant with my son, I did have the means to take care of him and give him the life he deserved… so I kept him. It’s unfair to a baby to bring it into a situation where it’s not wanted, and not going to get the care and love it deserves.
And as far as adoption…. I’m adopted. So is my older brother. We have both met our biological parents. Both of our biological mothers were horribly traumatized by having to give us up for adoption, and it took YEARS for them to be able to deal with it, and I don’t think either of them have fully recovered even though my brother and I were put in happy healthy homes. I don’t think a man can understand what it does to a woman to carry a child to term, and then give it away…. ESPECIALLY at such a young and fragile age. I’m not saying this is traumatic for every woman- but no government, religion, or person has the right to make a woman choose between raising a child she doesn’t want, or possibly going through the lifelong trauma of giving up a child she can’t care for because she was forced to have it. It’s sick and cruel.
If you REALLY care about all these unwanted babies, how about you go out and adopt a few? Because there’s thousands of unwanted babies and children out there to go around already. Or is it not important what happens to them after they’re born? Is the fact that they’re born at all the only issue?
How sick and selfish.
Shame on you.
Kristen, I’m so thankful that you had a mother who loved you and your brother so much to bring you both to full term and then lovingly placed you into a family she thought would be in a better position to care for you than she did. She is to be applauded for her decision. She made a great choice of not aborting you even though she knew she would not be able to take care of you. What if she had aborted you? You would not be able to be engaging in such a healthy debate. She brought joy to a family who was so blessed to have you in their lives. She chose well.
The only reason she didn’t abort me was because she was living on the streets and didn’t know she was pregnant with me until she was 6 months along. If she had been discovered in the abandoned warehouse she was living in a couple months earlier, I would have been aborted.
And in knowing that, and knowing that I was a couple months away from not existing… I still firmly stand behind a woman’s right to choose abortion. Because if she had known the emotional trauma that was in store for her after giving me up for adoption- she would have kept me. And then I would have been raised by a 16 year old drug addict. And that’s no life for any child.
Yes, I’m glad I’m here. But the fact that I do exist isn’t evidence that abortion is wrong, or evil, or unnecessary. With all the circumstances that can possibly surround a pregnancy- it needs to be an existing option. And it needs to be one that is not interfered with by religion or the government…. because we don’t all believe in the same god (and some of us, like myself, don’t believe in god at all), and the separation of church and state does not allow one religious belief structure to impose it’s beliefs onto national law.
To have the opinion that abortion is wrong is ok…. everyone is entitled to their opinion. But if we’re going to live in a country that celebrates diversity and freedoms, it needs to be accepted that different belief structures and behaviors are going to occur that we don’t agree with. To not agree with them is fine… but to take actions against them that could result in damaging lives that are already in existence (not just ones that are in fetal state) just because it goes against your personal belief structure is unjust.
I should say the following:
I’m Pro-Life.
I consider the instant the male and female chromosomes meet, forming a new diploid nucleus, as the defining moment of a new human being – hence the word “conception”.
However, I’m not like the hypocritical Republican self-proclaimed “pro-lifer” type.
Here’s why:
A TRUE PROLIFER IS ANTIWAR and ANTI-DEATH PENALTY.
Someone who says being against abortion in its own country but takes death, famine, destruction and abortions(!) to another, like McCain/Palin want, is not a pro-lifer!
Someone, who is in favour of death penalty, is not a pro-lifer.
Someone who has pleasure in shooting and changed the Alaska laws to shoot wolves and bears from helicopters is not a pro-lifer.
Republicans of that sort are not truly pro-lifers!
PS Bristol is doing the right thing by having the baby. To kill a baby is infinitely worse than for a 17 year old to become a mother…
Yes, the fact that Sarah Palin has a 19 year old heading into service just might very well be a reflection of her failure as a parent. He joined at, what, 18? According to media reports, he had been in trouble and has not even been living at home. Then the daughter comes up pregnant, which is readily preventable (if her mother had been doing her job), and therefore really inexcusable, in this day in age. So it appears to be two kids in a row who should be college-bound is the Palins’ had been doing their job.
An to top it off, the Palins’ solution to the girl is to push this KID toward marriage? People really need to pull their head out of the sand and own up to responsibility in the situation. They screwed up.
You do know that there is cause to believe that Track enlisted to avoid spending time in jail for charges of criminal mischief, trespassing and conspiracy to commit criminal mischief, and additional charges of theft and furnishing alcohol to a minor?
“Curiousity” — You are not allowed to serve in the military with a criminal record of that extent.
“Curiousity” – I’m not too familiar with the military requirements but the little I do know about being accepted in the military and other branches of law enforcement is that you must have a clean record. I recently spoke to someone who was trying to enlist and was experiencing delay because of a minor infraction that he had on his record as a juvenile.
Secondly, I am assuming that you are reporting facts and not rumors or allegations. If this is not true, how would you like to have people taking false reports about you and spreading it like you are doing? Just a thought.
“Besi” – do you know of teens whose parents has “done their job” and have ended up pregnant? I know of many who have. So to say that Bristol’s pregnancy is an indication of Sarah Palni not doing her job is really unfair and unfounded.
Secondly, not all teens are gonna be “college-bound”. I know of many teens who are more hand-smart than they are head-smart who have made something of themselves and not gone to college. College is not for everyone!
“Kristen” – I applaud your courage to share such intimate details about your life. I am really sorry to hear what you have gone through. It is not easy to have experienced what you have, and not have some emotional reaction. Even though your mom may not have known the emotional trauma as you put it, in placing you in a loving adoptive family, I still think she did the right thing. I would not have had this opportunity to hear your perspective.
Your statement “…but to take actions against them that could result in damaging lives ..” would suggest that women lives are in danger when they have children. I know there are those cases but they are rare. Secondly, isn’t this what is being done in an abortion – destroying lives?
Even though you say you don’t believe in God, I have prayed to him on your behalf. He believes in you!
We should all thanks those who serve but Track Palin DID NOT make that decision. A judge made it for him to keep him out of jail. Somebody needs to ask the Gov about this the next time she boosts about her son’s deployment.
The Bush administration has relaxed the rules regarding criminal records in the military because they were so desperate to keep recruiting numbers up. Geez, you “low information” voters make me nuts. Afghanistan and Iraq forces have been having trouble with violence and gangs forming within the ranks because the standards have gotten so low that they sweep the riffraff in with the patriotic and the need college money types.
“homewithtwinsmama” – I’m really appalled that you would refer to these men and women who are sacrificing so much as riffraffs. I think that they deserve better treatment than what you are given them. These are brave men and women who do not just sign up and become part of such elite group of people. They have to pass some of the most rigorous physical test to be accepted. These are no riffraffs. I am sorry, but I can’t let you say such things of these men and women. Your “beef” with George Bush should not be projected unto these men and women. Sorry.
You’re allowed to serve with multiple convictions now. The US military is having such a hard time meeting quotas that they are lowering the standards quite a bit, to include felons. Source: http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/military_enlistment_of_felons_has_doubled
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/21/military.waivers/index.html
“Country first” is a fitting motto for the McCain/Palin ticket. The Palins’ priority seems to be winning elections. This is at the expense of their children’s privacy and education. Their eldest daughter, who reportedly missed several months of school last school year due to a case of mono, during which time she became pregnant, is now being paraded around with her siblings in front of the entire world. The decent thing to do is to allow these children to return home to a stable, caring environment with an adult who sees their needs as the top priority. These children need guidance and attention. They need parental attention, not media attention.
“Maleesha” – thanks for the information. I went and looked at the data and did see where there are certain waivers granted for some branches of the military. So that would make it possible for Track if he had minor offenses brought against him to join the military.
“Eva” – I wonder if you would feel the same way about her as Governor of Alaska now that you have gotten to know her family situation? This didn’t seem to be an issue while she was in that high profile position juggling family, job, meetings, etc.
As an IRAQ war veteran I will say that this young man should receive some credit but NO MORE than the thousands of young men and women who have also made the choice to serve their county.
“BID_D” – I honor you for your service to our country. You are one of our many heroes. Thank you for your unselfishness. As you read, I did mention Track among the many others who have chosen to go into the military. I agree with you a 100%.
“Anonymous” – I really don’t know all the details whether he did or not. I like you are just going by what the media or rumors have stated. I would just add “as reported” because we don’t know for sure.
Palin, her experience, and her party are dangerous. Palin has controversy whirling about her because she has a phony belief system, is extremely egotisical—to the point where everything she becomes involved with exudes
drama that she and/or her associates have created, nearly bankrupted the tiny
town she mayored, and has shown how frightening the republican party truly is!
The poster, Kristen, showed intelligence with her comments about Palin…and she doesn’t need anyone to pray for her. A belief in a god does not mean that a person has more compassion for life than a person who has no belief in a god; a person with a belief in a god has no more potential for success or happiness than a person who doesn’t.
Give me a break!
The kid’s going to Iraq in order to stay out of jail for cutting the break line on a school bus.
Wattree
“Eric” – are you serious?
kingsleygrant-
I noticed you conveniently ignored Kristen’s question about what happens to the babies after they are born. This is something I have often wondered. I would like to know what all the pro-lifers (especially) do for these unwanted babies after they are born, because I have never heard of anything. Do you have any examples of what YOU personally have done for unwanted, neglected or abused children? Just wondering because as I see it, this issue is not about babies at all, but rather M-A-L-E C-O-N-T-R-O-L O-F W-O-M-E-N.
“Kiki” – you are asking a very legitimate question. I personally have not adopted any babies as I was blessed to have two beautiful children. That was all we chose to have. Had we not, then we sure would have adopted. I personally know of many children who have been adopted. One of my closest friends recently adopted a baby of a 13 y/o girl who thankfully brought the baby full term and not killed it. She is a beautiful baby being loved by a wonderful couple. When I look at that child, I thank God that the choice was made to allow her to live. I have also helped others in tangible ways who have adopted. Do you not know of anyone who is adopted or who have adopted? I”m surprised that you are wondering what happens to them.
It’s not that anyone think she’s a failure, but when you don’t support programs to help OTHER pregnant teens and are against funding for sex education programs, it makes her look like a hypocrite. Maybe other girls’ moms aren’t governors of Alaska and can’t afford to support their daughters. Stop making this about sexism. This woman could very well be our next president and no one knows a thing about her. Good thing we have the press. Back in Russia, Stalin banned the press and dissenters and threw them in jail. McCain’s campain won’t let her talk to the press and is trying to demonize the press for asking questions that we the public have a right to know. Banning gay rights, a woman’s right to choose, free speech? Is this the ticket we want in the White House?.. more like the Kremlin.
Why the media should apologize
By ROGER SIMON | 9/4/08 12:15 AM EST
ST. PAUL, Minn. — On behalf of the media, I would like to say we are sorry.
On behalf of the elite media, I would like to say we are very sorry.
We have asked questions this week that we should never have asked.
We have asked pathetic questions like: Who is Sarah Palin? What is her record? Where does she stand on the issues? And is she is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?
We have asked mean questions like: How well did John McCain know her before he selected her? How well did his campaign vet her? And was she his first choice?
Bad questions. Bad media. Bad.
It is not our job to ask questions. Or it shouldn’t be. To hear from the pols at the Republican National Convention this week, our job is to endorse and support the decisions of the pols.
Sarah Palin hit the nail on the head Wednesday night (and several in the audience wish she had hit some reporters on the head instead) when she said: “I’m not a member of the permanent political establishment. And I’ve learned quickly, these past few days, that if you’re not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone.”
But where did we go wrong with Sarah Palin? Let me count the ways:
First, we should have stuck to the warm, human interest stuff like how she likes mooseburgers and hit an important free throw at her high school basketball tournament even though she had a stress fracture.
Second, we should have stuck to the press release stuff like how she opposed the Bridge to Nowhere (after she supported it).
Third, we should never have strayed into the other stuff. Like when The Washington Post recently wrote: “Palin is under investigation by a bipartisan state legislative body. … Palin had promised to cooperate with the legislative inquiry, but this week she hired a lawyer to fight to move the case to the jurisdiction of the state personnel board, which Palin appoints.”
Why go there? What trees does that plant?
Fourth, we should stop making with all the questions already. She gave a really good speech. And why go beyond that? As we all know, speeches cannot be written by others and rehearsed for days. They are true windows to the soul.
Unless they are delivered by Barack Obama, that is. In which case, as Palin said Wednesday, speeches are just a “cloud of rhetoric.”
Fifth, we should stop reporting on the families of the candidates. Unless the candidates want us to.
Sarah Palin wanted the media to report on her teenage son, Track, who enlisted in the Army on Sept. 11, 2007, and soon will deploy to Iraq.
Sarah Palin did not want the media to report on her teenage daughter, Bristol, who is pregnant and unmarried.
Sarah Palin thinks that one is good for her campaign and one is not, and that the media should report only on what is good for her campaign. That is our job, and that is our duty. If that is not actually in the Constitution, it should be. (And someday may be.)
The official theme of the convention’s third day was “prosperity,” but the unofficial theme was “the media are really, really awful.”
Even Mike Huckabee, who campaigned for president this year by saying “I am a conservative, but I am not mad at anybody,” discovered Wednesday night that he is mad at somebody.
“I’d like to thank the elite media for doing something,” Huckabee said, “that, quite frankly, I didn’t think could be done: unify the Republican Party and all of America in support of John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
And could that be the real point of the attacks on the media? To unify the Republican Party?
No, that is simply the cynical, media view.
Though as Lily Tomlin says, “No matter how cynical I get, it’s just never enough to keep up.”
I couldn’t resist that. For which I am sorry.
Eric,
Thank you this is what I was looking for. I had heard he was given a choice, go to jail or join the service, but I couldn’t find any info about the crime. Do you have any sources that I can research? Been finding bits and pieces here and there. Since he would have been 16 at the time, I’m sure the court records are sealed.
Did somebody say that Palin was bad because her son has joined the military? That would be a ridiculous and wrong thing to say, but nobody said that (other than the author of this blog). Certainly there’s no high-level politician who said such a thing. So, who are you arguing against with this? It looks to me like you’re just making up bad things that don’t really exist.
I respect the McCain’s approach to their son’s military service. They have put an absolute bar on talking about it. They don’t talk about it, and they ask the media to leave it alone. They apparently recognize that a teenager’s choice to join the military (or not) says very little about the quality of the parent’s political policies, just as the fact that Bristol Palin got pregnant at 17 doesn’t make her mother right (or wrong) about her beliefs on sex ed and abortion. Think about it this way – if Bristol weren’t pregnant, would that prove Sarah Palin right? If Meghan McCain doesn’t join the military, does that make John McCain’s military policies wrong? These things – childrens’ behavior and parents’ politics – are simply not related.
I do wish the Palin family would make up their minds and start talking straight. Either the Palin children are part of the conversation, or they aren’t. It’s nutty for Sarah Palin to brag about her son’s military service as if it supports her as a candidate, but then tell the media that her daughter’s privacy needs to be respected and doesn’t reflect on her (Sarah’s) competence. How about we respect ALL the kids’ privacy, starting with the candidates themselves choosing to shut up about them, and talk more about the issues.
“Thomas” – I agree with your concluding remarks that the children should be left out of it altogether. What i disagree about is the fact that you are suggesting that I’m the one “making up bad things that don’t really exist”. You really can’t be serious with that statement.
I didn’t suggest that some high-level politician made the statement even though I wouldn’t be surprised if they are behind some of it. It is the media and others who want to find something to discredit Sarah Palin has brought into question her parenting. The idea that as a person who pushes abstinence how come her daughter is pregnant. Did she miss it here? That has been propagated over the airways time and time again. Don’t tell me you haven’t heard that.
MY idea of a hero is someone who REFUSES to fight in this Country’s oil wars. Heros are people who SAVE lives, not bomb innocent civilians.
P.S. Chris Woltman, you are now my favorite poster! Well said.
“tka” – sorry you feel that way about those who are out there putting their lives on the line so that yours and mine, are safe. They are my heroes. Because of them we are safer than we would have been. I don’t subscribe to the lies that the military are out there bombing innocent civilians. Do you really believe that? I don’t and won’t.